Comments on: Consultation about Sainsbury's Claywheels Lane with cyclists – regret and liability

By: Mick

Mick — Wed, 12 Jun 2013 21:50:21 +0000

Thanks Yvonne. I will send your comments on to the councillors and officers concerned. I think this scheme is just so professionally incompetent.

By: Mick

Mick — Wed, 12 Jun 2013 21:47:43 +0000

Thanks Paul. My email has got a response and I think councillors are having words with officers. I would be grateful if you would adapt my email to Leigh Bramall and send it to your councillors; I am not a Hillsborough resident.
What it’s going on is a disgrace and is down to professional not political incompetence.

By: Paul Hewitt

Paul Hewitt — Tue, 11 Jun 2013 06:22:15 +0000

I am a resident, directly adjacent to the site and although not a cyclist, share your dismay. Throughout this proposal I have been promised consideration and alterations to reduce risk to my young family.
However, they are still building the store traffic entrance directly opposite my driveway, despite personal promises at the consultations and in front of witnesses.
While I wish you luck with your campaign, I, from bitter experience, doubt that either your common sense or desire to enhance safety will blip on the radar of the cash cow that is “supermarket footing bill for new road surfaces can have WHATEVER it wants”.
They submit plans, with lots of glossy consultations that came to nothing. Then they quietly submit modifications to plans, one after another until they get their 24 hour, to he’ll with the rest of you, superstore.
I have wasted hours on well reasoned objections.
The latest questionnaire they posted through my door started with ” we plan to remove the only roundabout” and ended with ” once the work is complete, the roundabouts will be safer for pedestrians and cyclists”.
What roundabouts? You stated at the start that there won’t be any!!
They don’t even proof read their own propaganda!
Good luck.
Paul Hewitt

By: Yvonne Bland

Yvonne Bland — Mon, 10 Jun 2013 12:10:37 +0000

Hi I often use Claywheels Lane to get to town from Oughtibridge. I live in Deepcar, but being 75 and having COPD I find the last part of the journey up from Oughtibridge to my home a bit beyong me. I was pleased that the Beeley Woods track had been improved. I had no idea of any plan to build a Sainsbury’s on Claywheels Lane. I presume it to be on part of the Fletchers site, but would be pleased to know. I do find lack of any cycle track between the bottom of the Lane and the Swimming Pool a bit difficult. You have to have eyes in your bum at the junction of Herries Road. I fully support any action taken to support us on this route. Good Luck. Yvonne

By: Mick

Mick — Thu, 06 Jun 2013 13:58:55 +0000

We have mentioned the crossings before.
I didn’t mention the crossings because I felt we had conceded on them at the meeting – there were no alternatives discussed other than phasing of the lights.
For me the only thing we stuck on was a 4m segregated two-way path to provide some integrity for NCN627 to and apst Siansbury’s – and they can’t even concede that.

I agree we didn’t get anywhere which is why I am so upset.
That is what I made the requests
We understand cycle audits will hopefully mean that situations like this are not repeated and we urge you to ensure that Highways and Transport implement these NOW.
We will protest and resist sub-standard designs at every opportunity, and we request that those opportunities are created.
If SCC is able to ensure that external consultants share their designs within appropriate time scales then please will you make sure this has happens from NOW on.
If this is not possible we would like an explanation as to why not
If SCC staff are monitoring external consultant’s designs then would you please ensure that they adopt a pro-active stance that recognises the city’s signed-up commitment to The Times’ campaign Cities Fit for Cycling and the Welcome to Yorkshire’s TdF legacy, otherwise these commitments are not worth the paper SCC is signing them on.

As far as we know the DfT guidelines are available to all designers, so can the advice from SCC to external consultants explicitly refer to them everytime for every development at the beginning of the design process please?

I think
our next step is to make an individual request fro info on current state of plans on all the major developments (by planning permision number) taking place, say every month so we can check on progress.
and the step after that is to write to The Times and W2Y to say that SCC is not fit to be part of their campaigns!

Mick

By: Matt Turner

Matt Turner — Thu, 06 Jun 2013 13:25:57 +0000

No mention of the tortuous crossings through the junctions for cyclists?

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B84mpgL4eqfuNjdnNHBlbXU2MU0/edit?usp=sharing

I don’t think we managed to get anywhere with this when talking to the engineers/council.